Wikileak Memo: Obama Refused DEA Permission to Assassinate Chapo
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By David Iaconangelo,
If one high-ranking employee with the global intelligence firm Stratfor is to be believed, not only did the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) once know the whereabouts of Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán - the Sinaloa drug cartel kingpin and fugitive from justice in Mexico - but the agency even asked the White House to go into Mexico to kill him.
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Memos Leaked By WikiLeaks Show US DEA Was Refused White House Permission To
Kill Drug Kingpin Joaquín Guzmán Loera
By David Iaconangelo,
If one high-ranking employee with the global intelligence firm Stratfor is to be believed, not only did the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) once know the whereabouts of Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán - the Sinaloa drug cartel kingpin and fugitive from justice in Mexico - but the agency even asked the White House to go into Mexico to kill him.
Among the 5 million
"Stratfor memos" published by WikiLeaks in 2012 are several messages
from Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence and top expert on Mexican drug
cartels for Stratfor, describing classified interactions from 2007 to 2011
between Mexican and US intelligence and even President Barack Obama's response
to the 2010 DEA query. Guzmán, one of the most powerful of Mexico's
cartel capos, was sentenced to over 20 years in prison in 1993 on drug
trafficking charges but escaped by bribing a prison guard. He remains a
fugitive from justice.
The first of the messages from Burton came on November 2, 2007. "If the DEA can specifically locate the Sinaloa boss El Chapo, he will be assassinated," Burton wrote. "A decision memo has been authorized to take him out, as a national security threat." WhoWhatWhy, an investigative journalism website, writes that the "decision memo" could refer to a decision within the DEA pending approval from the National Security Council, or a memo indicating the Bush administration - still in office at that time - could have approved the plan.
Whatever the case was, a DEA operation was never carried out. But Burton later says, in a February 2010 email, that the DEA "had a window of opportunity to render El Chapo" but the White House "would not let them do it", quipping, "God forbid we upset our lovely MX neighbors". In a July 2010 email, he expounds a bit on what happened, writing, "DEA Special Ops submitted a finding to go into MX to whack El Chapo. Obviously, the decision came back as no. Never made it past the deputies committee."
The intelligence VP ends the email striking a pose of nonchalance toward the Obama administration's apparent rejection of the DEA request in that message. "As Gomer Pyle would say, 'Surprise, surprise'" he writes. That attitude might be explained by the last of the memos on El Chapo, coming in April 2011, when Burton says, "Obama won't approve a finding for covert action inside MX based on 'moral ground'", adding that then-Mexican President Felipe Calderón "has told a few that violence has reached a point that he would turn a blind eye to unilateral CIA or DEA actions, if they wanted to go down that path, as long as he has 'plausible deniability.'"
Close cooperation between US and Mexican intelligence agencies has been a politically sensitive one in Mexico. Under the Calderón administration, the agencies were known to have collaborated to an unprecedented degree - though perhaps not to the extent that the Stratfor memos suggest. But the administration of current president Enrique Peña Nieto, who came into office in December 2012, has tried to wedge out old space. And the opposition on the Mexican left denounces such collaboration as an incursion on Mexican sovereignty, a claim which Obama dismissed in a May trip to Mexico as "a distortion".
Burton also details ways in which the DEA might have gone about killing the Mexican drug lord. "One of the scenarios discussed to kill El Chapo or other Zeta HVT's [high-value targets] was a 1000 yard head shot by a U.S. shooter, to plant the seed of paranoia in the minds of the narcos as to who pulled the trigger.
"CIA 'Ground Branch' assets and/or DEA SO [Special Operations] have stated they have the ability and intelligence to pull it off without getting caught."
The first of the messages from Burton came on November 2, 2007. "If the DEA can specifically locate the Sinaloa boss El Chapo, he will be assassinated," Burton wrote. "A decision memo has been authorized to take him out, as a national security threat." WhoWhatWhy, an investigative journalism website, writes that the "decision memo" could refer to a decision within the DEA pending approval from the National Security Council, or a memo indicating the Bush administration - still in office at that time - could have approved the plan.
Whatever the case was, a DEA operation was never carried out. But Burton later says, in a February 2010 email, that the DEA "had a window of opportunity to render El Chapo" but the White House "would not let them do it", quipping, "God forbid we upset our lovely MX neighbors". In a July 2010 email, he expounds a bit on what happened, writing, "DEA Special Ops submitted a finding to go into MX to whack El Chapo. Obviously, the decision came back as no. Never made it past the deputies committee."
The intelligence VP ends the email striking a pose of nonchalance toward the Obama administration's apparent rejection of the DEA request in that message. "As Gomer Pyle would say, 'Surprise, surprise'" he writes. That attitude might be explained by the last of the memos on El Chapo, coming in April 2011, when Burton says, "Obama won't approve a finding for covert action inside MX based on 'moral ground'", adding that then-Mexican President Felipe Calderón "has told a few that violence has reached a point that he would turn a blind eye to unilateral CIA or DEA actions, if they wanted to go down that path, as long as he has 'plausible deniability.'"
Close cooperation between US and Mexican intelligence agencies has been a politically sensitive one in Mexico. Under the Calderón administration, the agencies were known to have collaborated to an unprecedented degree - though perhaps not to the extent that the Stratfor memos suggest. But the administration of current president Enrique Peña Nieto, who came into office in December 2012, has tried to wedge out old space. And the opposition on the Mexican left denounces such collaboration as an incursion on Mexican sovereignty, a claim which Obama dismissed in a May trip to Mexico as "a distortion".
Burton also details ways in which the DEA might have gone about killing the Mexican drug lord. "One of the scenarios discussed to kill El Chapo or other Zeta HVT's [high-value targets] was a 1000 yard head shot by a U.S. shooter, to plant the seed of paranoia in the minds of the narcos as to who pulled the trigger.
"CIA 'Ground Branch' assets and/or DEA SO [Special Operations] have stated they have the ability and intelligence to pull it off without getting caught."
WIKILEAKS:
Re: INSIGHT -
Mexico/Guatemala - cartel activity
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Very good
report.
DEA also believes El Chapo is in the same area, so that could be
"circular information".
DEA had a window of opportunity to render El Chapo but the WH would not
let them do it. God forbid we upset our lovely MX neighbors.
I've never seen the wife of the Guat Prez alleged links to the Zetas. I
can verify that if desired?
Reva Bhalla wrote:
> PUBLICATION: Background/analysis
> ATTRIBUTION: STRATFOR source
> SOURCE DESCRIPTION: MX defense/intel source
> SOURCE RELIABILITY: B
> ITEM CREDIBILITY: 3
> SUGGESTED DISTRIBUTION: secure
> SOURCE HANDLER: Reva..........continues on next page
> We believe el Chapo is currently hiding out in Petén, Guatemala near the
> Mexican border. Starting in about 2006, los Zetas and Sinaloa smashed
> the existing Guatemalan cartels in the north and took over. From
> 2004-2006 the Guatemalan military was reduced from 25,000-15,000. This
> was part of the peace accords. A lot of these guys who lost their
> positions in the military went into police, a lot went into organized
> crime and a lot went to Mexico. From there you could see the influx of
> the cartels.
> I can tell you that the Mexican army has presented very detailed plans
> to Calderon on plans for a major offensive against the cartels,
> identifying exactly which nodes they have to hit, artillery positions,
> etc. it was all mapped out. Calderon is strongly against it though. He
> doesn't want to give the army that power, doesn't want to deal with the
> backlash, and the biggest question is, who then controls the trade if
> you take out these guys? the demand for drugs doesn't just go away.
> The cartels, particularly los Zetas, are operating with the help of
> Sandra Torres de Colom - wife of Guatemalan pres who really calls the
> shots. There's a lot of suspicion that she is a former guerrilla (URNG)
> and has installed her relatives and other guerrillas in the government
> and intelligence apparatus. She doesn't have support of the military,
> who as you say is taking the side of the landowners who oppose her. She
> would like to become president but there is a clause in the constitution
> that prohibits any 'relative' of the president from running. She could
> work around this by a) changing the constitution b) claiming she's not a
> blood relative so therefore she is eligible or c) maybe even divorce the
> guy.
> The Mexican army is attempting to gain better control over its air space
> through radars and other systems to interdict the flow of drugs via air.
> While it's easier for the cartels to simply take the product straight to
> the US, it's risky. So, it's easier for them to buy one way tickets up
> the supply chain, from Colombia to Venezuela to Guatemala and then from
> there take it over by land into MX and across the border it goes into
> the US. MX wants Guatemala to also improve its control over its airspace
> to help patch up coverage over this border but Colom continues delaying
> any deals to obtain these systems. (went over the specs of what
> Guatemala has, essentially not enough). Of course there is a lot of
> corruption involved but in one of these deals the Brazilians were
> providing them credit and everything to make it go through. Still
> nothing happens. (he is implying that Colom doesn't want to enhance
> security along the border)
DEA also believes El Chapo is in the same area, so that could be
"circular information".
DEA had a window of opportunity to render El Chapo but the WH would not
let them do it. God forbid we upset our lovely MX neighbors.
I've never seen the wife of the Guat Prez alleged links to the Zetas. I
can verify that if desired?
Reva Bhalla wrote:
> PUBLICATION: Background/analysis
> ATTRIBUTION: STRATFOR source
> SOURCE DESCRIPTION: MX defense/intel source
> SOURCE RELIABILITY: B
> ITEM CREDIBILITY: 3
> SUGGESTED DISTRIBUTION: secure
> SOURCE HANDLER: Reva..........continues on next page
> We believe el Chapo is currently hiding out in Petén, Guatemala near the
> Mexican border. Starting in about 2006, los Zetas and Sinaloa smashed
> the existing Guatemalan cartels in the north and took over. From
> 2004-2006 the Guatemalan military was reduced from 25,000-15,000. This
> was part of the peace accords. A lot of these guys who lost their
> positions in the military went into police, a lot went into organized
> crime and a lot went to Mexico. From there you could see the influx of
> the cartels.
> I can tell you that the Mexican army has presented very detailed plans
> to Calderon on plans for a major offensive against the cartels,
> identifying exactly which nodes they have to hit, artillery positions,
> etc. it was all mapped out. Calderon is strongly against it though. He
> doesn't want to give the army that power, doesn't want to deal with the
> backlash, and the biggest question is, who then controls the trade if
> you take out these guys? the demand for drugs doesn't just go away.
> The cartels, particularly los Zetas, are operating with the help of
> Sandra Torres de Colom - wife of Guatemalan pres who really calls the
> shots. There's a lot of suspicion that she is a former guerrilla (URNG)
> and has installed her relatives and other guerrillas in the government
> and intelligence apparatus. She doesn't have support of the military,
> who as you say is taking the side of the landowners who oppose her. She
> would like to become president but there is a clause in the constitution
> that prohibits any 'relative' of the president from running. She could
> work around this by a) changing the constitution b) claiming she's not a
> blood relative so therefore she is eligible or c) maybe even divorce the
> guy.
> The Mexican army is attempting to gain better control over its air space
> through radars and other systems to interdict the flow of drugs via air.
> While it's easier for the cartels to simply take the product straight to
> the US, it's risky. So, it's easier for them to buy one way tickets up
> the supply chain, from Colombia to Venezuela to Guatemala and then from
> there take it over by land into MX and across the border it goes into
> the US. MX wants Guatemala to also improve its control over its airspace
> to help patch up coverage over this border but Colom continues delaying
> any deals to obtain these systems. (went over the specs of what
> Guatemala has, essentially not enough). Of course there is a lot of
> corruption involved but in one of these deals the Brazilians were
> providing them credit and everything to make it go through. Still
> nothing happens. (he is implying that Colom doesn't want to enhance
> security along the border)
Source:Latin Times
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Ps: I don't support cartels.
Also the only real capo that mexico ever caught was the Beltran guy and nacho C, almost everyone else they either turn them self in or the mexican army caught them by dumb luck
And EPN? Forget for a second this dude looks like a Mexican Ken doll and talks tough.
Ask the communitarian police that have to protect their own towns with shotguns and pistols and beat up piece of shit autos against multi-million dollar cartels in convoys of 15-20 brand new trucks and seemingly unlimited supplies of weaponry, ammunition and shooters. They'll tell you all you need to know about EPN.
The conversation goes on, and Chapo continues to reign supreme...
Good thing the Obama admin denied the DEA. They're like small children who don't get enough candy. Sometimes they need to be told NO. We need El Chapo to get rid of these horrible zetas and monopolize the trade he's in.
Did you see the photo of Mayito I posted? its on the post of his capture. these guys never look anything as the old known foto
Welcome to the real world fellas. In my 20 years alive on this earth, I've learned everything and everyone has a motive, and mainly its always greed behind that motive.
Actually under the law, Obama can do anything he wants with the military, including hit Syria with an airstrike but he has to receive authorization from Congress to continue after 90 days.
The way the upcoming operation has been described, the bombing will last considerably less than 90 days.
Saturday's press conference was Obama asking Congress voting an Authorization to Use Military Force to get him out of political trouble with his leftist base for his "red line" remark he made a year ago.
Got killed and then the u.s.a stole the body pretend it was a rumor so his rivals and his own people will not start more violence but little by little chapos people are getting killed or captured.
Assad Alawite regime protects Christians.
Would you rather have CIA backed Al Qaeda masquerading as Syrian Free Army run Syria and execute Christians?
Dumb ass, ask yourself why a Assad would gas children if he is a protector of his people?
Why do it now when he has never done it before. Al Qaeda marks all over it (the gassing).
Where's the proof Assad did it? The inspectors got shot at when they tried to inspect an area which is meant to be controlled by Al Qaeda (Syrian Free Army).
Bloodthirsty American is what you are. Innocents, real people like you with feelings are going to get their lives taken away.
As for Chapo = Cali cartel(bribery)
Zetas= Medellin Cartel (violence)
Keep doin what your doin Chapo.
Police of the World my ass, your day will come.
Kick out Assad place Al Qaeda then get Isreal and Syria into a war.
Hopefully Syria's Russian made anti missile defense stacks up against the Americans.
(if it comes to that, hope it doesn't though for Syrian people's stake)
During which real people with feelings, dreams, jobs, lives get killed, maimed, displaced, lose loved ones. Yeah real nice O-Dumm-a.
Chehcens, Libyians, Turks, Saudi's, Albanians, the lot are there in Syria on a jihad on Americans side against Assad and the people of Syria. Maybe one day there will come to the benefactor's country (USA).
I dont hate the USA, just hate innocents people getting their lives turned upside down or taken away. Wrong is wrong even if its the USA doing it. Why back Al Qaeda terrorists who are willing to gas children, are you fuckin nuts Obama? You need your head examined. Fuck collateral damage this is real lives, extinguished forever.
What you sow you will reap America.
Assad must be doing the right thing by Syrian Sunni, Alawites, and Christians to have their support.
The gassing was done cause Assad's forces were kicking ass and had Al Qaeda FSA on the back foot (were beating them and regaining areas).
So the Americans give the green light to gas children.
Why were inspectors shot at when they tried to inspect the site when the area is meant to be controlled by Al Qaeda FSA? Cause they dont want the inspectors confirming Assad had nothing to do with it.
"GOD Damn America" Rev. White (Obama's former religious minister)
Find out what the Syrian people feel about the FSA(Rebels)find out about the weapons they have,and where they got them from?
Assasinate Guzman?For what?Some of you people really do need to get out more.
HOW IS IT WORKING FOR YOU ALL
?????????????????????????
pueden con el Chapito, guste a kien le guste a cualquier joto hijo de puto envidioso!
have an alliance with Russia that goes back a half-century to the days of the cold war; thus, any measure that might be proposed by the UN's security council would be blocked by Russia - they hold
a permanent seat. It would be interesting to see if the U.S. acts unilaterly even with
congressional approval. It doesnt look good for the Syrian rebels.
The Alawite control of Syria has benefited the Iranians geopolitical interests in their hopes of championing the Muslims resistence against U.S. interests in the region and Israels presence in what was ancient Canaan. Syria is used as a base to attack Israel through the Iranian backed Hezbollah and Hamas organizations. The removal of the minorty Alawite from power might bring a new partnership to peace in the mid east since Iran's allies would no longer have the base of support from Syria. Then again it could exacerbate and spread the conflict if Al Qaeda fills the power vacuum that the removal of Bashar would bring. There is more to this than just Syria. Then end game could be the appearance of the bringing of so-called democracy to the Middle East and the creation of a Palestinian state. This has all the markings of geopolitics and religion.
The US says shit to make us think one that when really they have NO INTENTION of taking him out. This is my opinion on this
Vegas Guys
"Since when BB readers became intelligence officers hahahah bunch of pathetic loosers"
Your BB reader too so that makes you a "looser[sic]" too :)
No less wieght than fabricated govt intelligence officers reports eg: reasons to attack Saddam, Assad, and many times before and since
Prove me wrong "looser"[sic]
CNN
I vote for la Tuta
where did you see those percentages?
it is 80% that want congress to vote on it not that they are against hee are the hard poll numbers:
50% against involvement
40% support
but when the question is asked "do you support strikes from US Ships and no boots on the ground or planes involved" it reverses:
50% support
40% do not
.
Bullshit, they live modest compared to Gaddafi and Saddam's former extravagances.
Glass factory's? Ask O-dumm-a to give you some manufacturing jobs by opening factories for the 20+ million unemployed in USA instead of turning Syria into a glass factory of rumble.
How would you feel if your children were killed by Obama's bombs, dickhead!
Its the FSA terrorists that had to use the gas on the innocents to get the Amercians to attack Assad and finish him like they did with poor Gaddafi.
Why is America siding with these devious FSA terrorist c...ts?
"weak president Obama,,, VIVA ROMNEY!"
Viva John Wayne !
" ...hahahaha bravo and talibanes will take care of the seals, that dude was smoking cherms what he said on his comment...bravo aint nobody to usa trained elite military!!! "
IDK,Taliban seem to be holding their own against the super duper Seals,and Co. Seals need to cut down on the UFC and Coors-light beers at the base if they wanna have a chance of wiping out Taliban.
Taliban said "show us the proof Osama did 9/11 and we will hand him over" but nah wasn't good enough for ya. You reap what you sow, I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for any troops.
right; and fix the US economy while your at it Obama and pay off the debts.
Millions have lost their homes in USA ! Now you want to have more homeless in Syria too by bombing and killing them?
I did not vote for Obama either time, and I think he is a lousy president, but if this wikileaks is factual I agree with Obama. How does one justify that killing? Justification sans emotion?
But I have trouble with the story. if DEA wanted to kill Chapo given the opportunity they would do so, why ask Obama? At the time Chapo was in Guate, Guate was sleeping with the last letter. Get it?
An what would killing Chapo accomplish? Though he needs to be brought to justice, Removing capos never solves or changes anything. If so Calderon would be a hero, he captured the large majority of his chart of targeted narcos. What changed?
Through July almost 14,000 narcos deaths since EPN took office, through July! at the deadliest year with Calderon it was 12, 658. Yes I know the numbers are low but I am using it as a comparative, how there are more deaths and more capos out of the playing field.
I voted for obama and it's working out pretty good but I feel bad for those who voted for w.
Execute all the Chapo's of the world. But stop turning a blind eye to the fact that it is America with the problem. Let's not spend so much time on the supplier and worry more about keeping our nation off the drugs to begin with. We will never be 100% successful, but we don't have to be. Attacking gang life styles, funding programs that really work (sorry D.A.R.E.), and developing accessible and quality rehabilitation programs would go a long way to weakening the cartels empires. Short of invading Mexico and trying to out right kill them all, there is no other alternative.
kingpins just like the isreali commandos
Chapo is a fucking snitch every One should
know by now. I mean why Would obitchma
wanted him alive somebodysnitching
And then us rapers think hes some
Type of dope god but in reality hes just
a snitch with a lot of money
rapers dont know They rap about a
welthy snitch. -Al Quds
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