Reaganite Republican ^ | 06 August 2013 | Reaganite Republican
Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 8:47:32 AM by Reaganite Republican
Recall reading about how Valerie Jarrett
cancelled the Bin Laden raid three times?
Chronology of the evening of 9/11/12:
- Around 5 pm EST, secure-channel reports arrived in Washington saying that our Special Mission Benghazi consulate was under attack.
- Secretary of Defense Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen Martin Dempsey summoned the President,and briefed him on the crisis, face to face. Subsequent to that brief meeting, President Obama proceeded to the White House to dine in his living quarters.
- After he ate, Obama had a telephone conference scheduled with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. As that meeting drew to a close, Ms. Jarrett, who is also the Assistant to the President for Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs, went from the living quarters to the White House Situation Room, where the attack in Benghazi was being monitored by Dempsey, Panetta and other top-ranking officials. Whether she was instructed by the President to go there, or if she went of her own volition, is only known by the President and herself...
- The sole military-order that could have launched offensive-actions, neutralizing the Ansar al Sharia terrorists attacks on the Mission and its subsequent attacks on the adjacent CIA Annex, was the issuance of “Cross Border Authority”, an order that can only be issued by the Commander in Chief himself: this authority was denied twice, and Obama wasn't in the room at the time...
More details at Doug Ross
TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazigate; bho44; bhostatedept; jarrett; orders; soshillary
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To: Reaganite Republican
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posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 8:49:58 AM
by Doogle
(USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
To: Reaganite Republican
The real tragedy is that this vile man lives in a cocoon since
journalists in the MSM have become tame lapdogs. The lack of honest
criticism has made Obama even less competent. He knows there are few
consequences to his actions.
To: Reaganite Republican
Jarrett is the acting POTUS...and isn’t anymore qualified than Obama.
5
posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 8:58:52 AM
by lonestar
(It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
To: Reaganite Republican
Valerie could not issue CBA, which is why the POTUS hid like a
coward for 8+ hours, while brave Americans were fighting and dying, and
his ambassador (= four star general) was thought to have been kidnapped
by Al Queda.
To: Reaganite Republican
It really pisses me off that almost none of the Bengahzi articles
point out that the sacrafice of four Americans and the subsequent,
year-long cover-up are all about getting Dumb-Ass-in Chief reelected.
FOUR PEOPLE DIED SO OBAMA COULD REMAIN IN POWER!!!
FOUR PEOPLE DIED SO OBAMA COULD REMAIN IN POWER!!!
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posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:01:24 AM
by subterfuge
(CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
To: Doogle
To: sauropod
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posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:04:10 AM
by sauropod
(Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
To: Travis McGee
Barry needed his rest. He had a fundraising gig the next day.
It’s something like Hitler on June 6, 1944. Dolf had been up late lecturing his inner circle. Sure, they needed panzers at Normandy but no one wanted to wake the bastard.
It’s something like Hitler on June 6, 1944. Dolf had been up late lecturing his inner circle. Sure, they needed panzers at Normandy but no one wanted to wake the bastard.
10
posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:04:45 AM
by tumblindice
(America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
To: Reaganite Republican
I’ve thought for a very long time, since last September, that
this had her fingerprints all over it. Doesn’t and wouldn’t surprise me
IF this was 100% true.
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posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:08:31 AM
by Qwackertoo
(Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
To: Reaganite Republican
This story reeks of planned indifference to what THEY
orchestrated as being a protest in Benghazi. The POTUS eating dinner,
two hour call with Netanyahu and then sending VJ to the situation room
to theoretically give the finger to the US military? Sorry, this was a
planned attack that someone knew was going to happen.
To: Reaganite Republican
she is one dumb ugly marxist
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To: Toespi
It was to be a trade for the Blind Sheik, the
bomber of WTC in the first ignored attack.
The US Congress DOES NOT care (except about themselves).
bomber of WTC in the first ignored attack.
The US Congress DOES NOT care (except about themselves).
To: Doogle
I wait for the day these two become worm feed. Hillary also this is
the most evil and incompetent administration and they are purposely
ruining this country.
To: Reaganite Republican
"After he ate, Obama had a telephone conference scheduled with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. As "That
should be easy enough to check... what time is it in Iseal when it is
6:30PM in washington? 1:30AM? does Bibi often schedule 2 hour phone
calls at 1:30 AM?
Or is it Obama who puposely schedules those so late as to be an inconvenience ?
Or is it Obama who puposely schedules those so late as to be an inconvenience ?
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posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:12:01 AM
by Mr. K
(Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
To: Qwackertoo
I have thought that Mrs. Jarrett has been the puppeteer from the
first time I heard Obama’s name. This was the plan that her father in
law, Vernon Jarret and Frank Marshall Davis conceived with the Commies
and the Saudi’s to control the Black’s, and ultimately the U.S.
To: yldstrk
Valerie Jarrett is NOT dumb by a long shot.
To: allendale
“The real tragedy is that this vile man lives in a cocoon since journalists in the MSM have become tame lapdogs.”
The real tragedy is the leadership of the opposition party (Boehner, McConnell, McCain, Cantor) is silent. Silence is acceptance.
The real tragedy is the leadership of the opposition party (Boehner, McConnell, McCain, Cantor) is silent. Silence is acceptance.
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posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:24:49 AM
by Soul of the South
(Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
To: Reaganite Republican
Obama had a telephone conference scheduled with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
Guess we need to recruit the Daily Mail in the UK to vet this statement, obviously the media here doesn't care.
Guess we need to recruit the Daily Mail in the UK to vet this statement, obviously the media here doesn't care.
To: Diogenesis
Not buying this VJ taking the sword for Obama, he was intentionally distancing himself. They are symbiotic.
To: angcat
and they are purposely ruining this country. ..we knew that 6 years ago
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posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:32:54 AM
by Doogle
(USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
To: Qwackertoo
I’ve thought for a very long time, since last September, that
this had her fingerprints all over it. Doesn’t and wouldn’t surprise me
IF this was 100% true.
So have I. It makes sense to me that the Iranian born Jarrett wouldn't give orders to attack Muslims.
It would also make sense to me that Obama had no idea what to do when the Benghazi compound was attack.
Obama on the night of 9/11/12: "Uh, uh........I don't know. Val could you deal with this? I've got a big day tomorrow."
So have I. It makes sense to me that the Iranian born Jarrett wouldn't give orders to attack Muslims.
It would also make sense to me that Obama had no idea what to do when the Benghazi compound was attack.
Obama on the night of 9/11/12: "Uh, uh........I don't know. Val could you deal with this? I've got a big day tomorrow."
To: Reaganite Republican
““Cross Border Authority”, an order that can only be issued by
the Commander in Chief himself: this authority was denied twice, and
Obama wasn’t in the room at the time...”
Didn’t I read here yesterday, that there was a C-130 Gunship already in country?
Didn’t I read here yesterday, that there was a C-130 Gunship already in country?
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posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 10:03:51 AM
by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
To: Reaganite Republican
Once it became horribly obvious that the master planned Barry O
election booster event wasn’t going as planned, Val told Barry to go
play his xbox or watch sportscenter. “Do some blow, torch some bud. You
gotta big day tomorrow kid.” These evil cretins belong in chains.
To: Reaganite Republican
The combat code of the US Military is that we don’t abandon our
dead or wounded on the battlefield. In US Air Force lingo, fighter
pilots don’t run off and leave their wingmen. If one of our own is shot
down, still alive and not yet in enemy captivity, we will either come to
get him or die trying. Among America’s fighting forces, the calm, sure
knowledge that such an irrevocable bond exists is priceless. Along with
individual faith and personal grit, it is a sacred trust that has often
sustained hope in the face of terribly long odds.
The disgraceful abandonment of our Ambassador and those brave ex-SEALs who fought to their deaths to save others in that compound is nothing short of dereliction-of-duty. Additionally, the patently absurd cover-up scenario that was fabricated in the aftermath was an outright lie in attempt to shield the President and the Secretary of State from responsibility.
It has been over eight months since the attack on our compound in Benghazi. The White House strategy, with the aid of a “lap dog press” has been to run out the clock before the truth is forthcoming. The recent testimonies of the three “whistle blowers” have reopened the subject and hopefully will lead to exposure and disgrace of those responsible for this embarrassing debacle.
It would appear that the most recent firewall which the Administration is counting on is the contention that there were simply no military assets that could be brought to bear in time to make a difference… mainly due to the unavailability of tanker support for fighter aircraft. This is simply BS, regardless how many supposed “experts” the Administration trot out to make such an assertion.
The bottom line is that even if the closest asset capable of response was half-way around the world, you don’t just sit on your penguin ass and do nothing. The fact is that the closest asset was not half-way around the world, but as near as Aviano Air Base, Italy where two squadrons of F-16Cs are based.
Consider the following scenario (all times Benghazi local):
-When Hicks in Tripoli receives a call at 9:40 PM from Ambassador Stevens informing him “Greg, we are under attack!” (his last words), he immediately notifies all agencies and prepares for the immediate initiation of an existing “Emergency Response Plan.”
-At AFRICON, General Carter Ham attempts to mount a rescue effort, but is told to “stand down.” By 10:30 PM an unarmed drone is overhead the compound and streaming live feed to various Command and Control Agencies… and everyone watching that feed knew damn well what was going on.
-At 11:30 PM Woods, Doherty and five others leave Tripoli, arriving in Benghazi at 1:30 AM on Wednesday morning, where they hold off the attacking mob from the roof of the compound until they are killed by a mortar direct hit at 4:00 AM.
So nothing could have been done, eh? Nonsense. If one assumes that tanker support really was not available… what about this:
-When at 10:00 PM AFRICON alerts the 31st TFW Command Post in Aviano Air Base, Italy of the attack, the Wing Commander orders preparation for the launch of two F-16s and advises the Command Post at NAS Sigonella to prepare for hot pit refueling and quick turn of the jets.
-By 11:30 PM, two F-16Cs with drop tanks and each armed with five hundred 20 MM rounds are airborne. Flying at 0.92 mach they will cover the 522 nautical miles directly to NAS Sigonella in 1.08 hours.
-While in-route, the flight lead is informed of the tactical situation, rules of engagement, and radio frequencies to use.
-The jets depart Sigonella at 1:10 AM with full fuel load and cover the 377 nautical miles directly to Benghazi in 0.8 hours, arriving at 1:50 AM… which would be 20 minutes after the arrival of Woods, Doherty and their team.
-Providing that the two F-16s initial pass over the mob, in full afterburner at 200 feet and 550 knots did not stop the attack in its tracks, only a few well placed strafing runs on targets of opportunity would assuredly do the trick.
-Were the F-16s fuel state insufficient to recover at Sigonelli after jettisoning their external drop tanks, they could easily do so at Tripoli International Airport, only one-half hour away.
-As for those hand-wringing naysayers who would worry about IFR clearances, border crossing authority, collateral damage, landing rights, political correctness and dozens of other reasons not to act… screw them. It is high time that our “leadership” get their priorities straight and put America’s interests first.
The end result would be that Woods and Doherty would be alive. Dozens in the attacking rabble would be rendezvousing with “72 virgins”… and a clear message would have been sent to the next worthless POS terrorist contemplating an attack on Americans that it is not really a good idea to “tug on Superman’s cape.”
Of course all this would depend upon a Commander In Chief that was more concerned with saving the lives of those he put in harm’s way than getting his crew rest for a campaign fund raising event in Las Vegas the next day. As well as a Secretary of State that actually understood “What difference did it make?”, or a Secretary of Defense whose immediate response was not to the effect that “One of the military tenants is that you don’t commit assets until you fully understand the tactical situation.” Was he not watching a live feed from the unarmed drone… and he didn’t understand the tactical situation? YGBSM!
Ultimately it comes down to the question of who give that order to “stand down?” Whoever that coward turns out to be should be exposed, removed from office, and face criminal charges for dereliction of duty. The combat forces of the United States of America deserve leadership that really does “have their back” when the chips are down.
The disgraceful abandonment of our Ambassador and those brave ex-SEALs who fought to their deaths to save others in that compound is nothing short of dereliction-of-duty. Additionally, the patently absurd cover-up scenario that was fabricated in the aftermath was an outright lie in attempt to shield the President and the Secretary of State from responsibility.
It has been over eight months since the attack on our compound in Benghazi. The White House strategy, with the aid of a “lap dog press” has been to run out the clock before the truth is forthcoming. The recent testimonies of the three “whistle blowers” have reopened the subject and hopefully will lead to exposure and disgrace of those responsible for this embarrassing debacle.
It would appear that the most recent firewall which the Administration is counting on is the contention that there were simply no military assets that could be brought to bear in time to make a difference… mainly due to the unavailability of tanker support for fighter aircraft. This is simply BS, regardless how many supposed “experts” the Administration trot out to make such an assertion.
The bottom line is that even if the closest asset capable of response was half-way around the world, you don’t just sit on your penguin ass and do nothing. The fact is that the closest asset was not half-way around the world, but as near as Aviano Air Base, Italy where two squadrons of F-16Cs are based.
Consider the following scenario (all times Benghazi local):
-When Hicks in Tripoli receives a call at 9:40 PM from Ambassador Stevens informing him “Greg, we are under attack!” (his last words), he immediately notifies all agencies and prepares for the immediate initiation of an existing “Emergency Response Plan.”
-At AFRICON, General Carter Ham attempts to mount a rescue effort, but is told to “stand down.” By 10:30 PM an unarmed drone is overhead the compound and streaming live feed to various Command and Control Agencies… and everyone watching that feed knew damn well what was going on.
-At 11:30 PM Woods, Doherty and five others leave Tripoli, arriving in Benghazi at 1:30 AM on Wednesday morning, where they hold off the attacking mob from the roof of the compound until they are killed by a mortar direct hit at 4:00 AM.
So nothing could have been done, eh? Nonsense. If one assumes that tanker support really was not available… what about this:
-When at 10:00 PM AFRICON alerts the 31st TFW Command Post in Aviano Air Base, Italy of the attack, the Wing Commander orders preparation for the launch of two F-16s and advises the Command Post at NAS Sigonella to prepare for hot pit refueling and quick turn of the jets.
-By 11:30 PM, two F-16Cs with drop tanks and each armed with five hundred 20 MM rounds are airborne. Flying at 0.92 mach they will cover the 522 nautical miles directly to NAS Sigonella in 1.08 hours.
-While in-route, the flight lead is informed of the tactical situation, rules of engagement, and radio frequencies to use.
-The jets depart Sigonella at 1:10 AM with full fuel load and cover the 377 nautical miles directly to Benghazi in 0.8 hours, arriving at 1:50 AM… which would be 20 minutes after the arrival of Woods, Doherty and their team.
-Providing that the two F-16s initial pass over the mob, in full afterburner at 200 feet and 550 knots did not stop the attack in its tracks, only a few well placed strafing runs on targets of opportunity would assuredly do the trick.
-Were the F-16s fuel state insufficient to recover at Sigonelli after jettisoning their external drop tanks, they could easily do so at Tripoli International Airport, only one-half hour away.
-As for those hand-wringing naysayers who would worry about IFR clearances, border crossing authority, collateral damage, landing rights, political correctness and dozens of other reasons not to act… screw them. It is high time that our “leadership” get their priorities straight and put America’s interests first.
The end result would be that Woods and Doherty would be alive. Dozens in the attacking rabble would be rendezvousing with “72 virgins”… and a clear message would have been sent to the next worthless POS terrorist contemplating an attack on Americans that it is not really a good idea to “tug on Superman’s cape.”
Of course all this would depend upon a Commander In Chief that was more concerned with saving the lives of those he put in harm’s way than getting his crew rest for a campaign fund raising event in Las Vegas the next day. As well as a Secretary of State that actually understood “What difference did it make?”, or a Secretary of Defense whose immediate response was not to the effect that “One of the military tenants is that you don’t commit assets until you fully understand the tactical situation.” Was he not watching a live feed from the unarmed drone… and he didn’t understand the tactical situation? YGBSM!
Ultimately it comes down to the question of who give that order to “stand down?” Whoever that coward turns out to be should be exposed, removed from office, and face criminal charges for dereliction of duty. The combat forces of the United States of America deserve leadership that really does “have their back” when the chips are down.
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