Rice set national security adviser
Interviewer : Abdul Rahim poorestGuests episode:Charles Kabchn / researcher at the Council on Foreign RelationsSaid Erekat / columnist and political analystShibley Telhami / political science professor at the University of MarylandEpisode Date : 11/06/2013
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Abdul Rahim poorest : viewers everywhere Welcome to you all in the new episode of the program from Washington , we stop in this episode when you set by President Obama to: Susan Rice, national security adviser and Samantha Power at the head of the U.S. Mission to the United Nations , what could mean the women 's policy Obama at home and attitudes of many of the issues of the Arab Gulf to the ocean through Syria , of course , my guests in this episode Professor Charles Kabchn of the Council on Foreign Relations American author of several books about the future of American power , including the book "The World is not controlled by one of the West and the rest of emerging and global transformation next , " the journalist Saeed Erekat , Professor Shibley Telhami of the University of Maryland who Shibley intersection of his career with Susan in the past , join us in this episode of Doha . If Samantha Power has known its position on the pro- military intervention for humanitarian purposes in previous crises like Rwanda and Bosnia , the Susan Rice has known for similar positions as well as its crucial role in Washington's involvement in the military to help topple the regime of Gaddafi .
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Barack Obama / U.S. president : as our ambassador to the United Nations Susan worked tirelessly in advancing our interests forward , and restored the vital U.S. diplomacy in New York , and helped to impose tough sanctions on Iran and North Korea , and defended Israel and supported the independence of South Sudan and raised their voices in defense of the rights of rights, including the rights of women .
Abdul Rahim poorest : Obama's like trying to pre-empt any interpretation for the appointment of Rice and Power that he is ready for military intervention in Syria , for example, a narrow window of appointment .
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Barack Obama / U.S. President : I think everyone knows that Susan fierce defenders of justice and human dignity , but also eager to use our power wisely and deliberately .
Abdul Rahim poorest : So what can be expected from Obama's choice of Susan Rice and Samantha Power for file Syrian specifically private and that they will join a strong team includes the ministers of both the Defense and State who agree with Obama's position so far in the Syrian file at least in the world, will you join to the women of this team will enhance its coherence or strengthens Nchazh ?
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LG Carney / White House spokesman : At the end it is up to the president alone to assess his views on foreign policy when it comes to matters on the table , and then take the appropriate decision so I think that President Obama's policy on Syria will be as it is his policy today.
The significance of the appointment of Rice
Abdul Rahim poorest : Before I open the debate with my guests in the studio and Doha , turn to our colleague Fadi Mansour from the White House , first you set Fadi Susan Rice and Samantha Power message to the inside or the outside?
Fadi Mansour / Al-Jazeera correspondent : Yes Abdul Rahim , perhaps it may be in both directions in one hand is a message to the outside, I think that it practically has Bastgrac repercussions through the initial shock and a lot of speculation we are considering here in this episode about what it means to assign each of Rice and Power in these positions the strong ? Does this mean a change in U.S. foreign policy , this hand especially with regard to the Syrian position , and whether this is an indication that President Barack Obama has taken a tougher stance from the Syrian issue , both in terms of supplying the opposition with weapons or hand military intervention , but in the inner side is also confirms his powers , we know that President Obama has sought in the past to set Susan Rice, practically in the position of Secretary of the Interior , but failed in this endeavor because of the Republican's campaign , which has against him and against specifically against the background of what happened in Benghazi and the accusations made against them that they misled the American public when he talked about the nature of the the attack in Benghazi , but also sought to send some messages to the interior and to strengthen the presence of both Rice and power when he said they were practically prefer or Tanagadan behind wise and realistic policy that the issue of military intervention or military force is not an issue absolute and thus there is double sided for Obama's message both external and internal .
Abdul Rahim poorest : Of course Tom Donilon Donilon , who is now adviser to Obama said his national President Obama that replaced Susan Rice or Obama administration says that replaced Susan Rice does not necessarily mean a change in the position of this administration on Middle East issues , in this case the question is what interest permission to replace Donilon Bryce ?
Fadi Mansour : First there is the side of a procedural purely American administration and successive administrations , President Barack Obama's administration second is usually a lot of faces change we have seen how it has changed and Defense Minister practically twice during the administrations of President Barack Obama , changed the secretary of state and of course change the national security adviser , but to look at it from this side , first Samantha Power in its position in the United Nations does not represent a practical point different from Susan Rice , but she represents a continuation of Susan Rice, in all cases in this position in practice is carried out the foreign policy of the U.S. administration may be a key player in the formation of this policy but its role in the international organization is dealing with other countries and try as much as possible to find consensus about the destinations that you want to be paid by the U.S. administration , Susan Rice as national security adviser, it is because she was with President Barack Obama since 2007 , and was Donilon on his way to the exit and therefore preferred course to come back out after failing in his bid first to be near him and in order to contribute significantly to practically formulate foreign and security policy of the United States , eventually Abdul Rahim, the administration of President Barack Obama will not start in dealing with Syria or with any other file in the premises ideology or of the concepts of fixed and Nadzh , President Barack Obama is not always inclined to military interventions with a large scale, and thus the two women will Taataamlan with reality as it is , and ultimately will decide the situation in Syria and the United States' ability to intervene is the nature of the balance of power and what is available in front of the United States in this file .
Abdul Rahim poorest : Fadi regardless of political content now to this appointment , Image Obama , in announcing the appointment of these two women expressive , black U.S. president , along with two women , one black as well Is the message now to the outside of the Middle East , which he says many people where demanding citizenship and Obama offers this picture or is the image of the inside to the Republicans here in the United States who are facing problems as it is known to attract minorities , for example?
Fadi Mansour : No, I do not know how to read or agree external audiences specifically in the Middle East in the reading of a normal appointment of Susan Rice, in this position , and whether it was perceived symbolism virtue she is a woman in the forties with children practically a woman of African- American , I do not know if this sensitivity exists in this sense can capture these signals , the more likely that the appointment of Susan Rice in this position is read from the political reality is not reality , so to speak cultural or women's rights , and there, perhaps at home this may be more important especially as it appoints practically two women as I pointed out , two women, two young women in the forties Mtzojtin have children , especially in the context of social senior U.S. which , according to recent statistics that virtually a quarter of the families in the United States women are the primary source of income there this climb , but even inside the U.S. I do not know what the importance of such significance ? Does reading will be limited in relation to the daily politics in Washington, on the political side ? But there must be some votes in the elite , some votes at the stream of women's rights and so on , and also some votes in the next election campaign will refer to this aspect with regard to women and minorities, perhaps being used as I pointed out in practice in order to collect political gains .
Abdul Rahim poorest : Thanks for the fellow Fadi Mansour , joined us from the White House , Professor Charles Kabchn what you read in the appointment of Susan Rice and Samantha Power for the future of American power , American foreign policy in the Syrian file Kalmlv ?
Charles Kabchn : I do not think that this bend in the world of politics as Obama adopted a limit heavily on a small loop internal were with him during the campaign, including Susan Rice, and Samantha Power , and therefore these two women were with him from the beginning, and see their voices now become stronger, but I think it does not change political scene and ideological , and I think it is important to point out and explain the strength of the restrictions and pressure on Obama when it comes to the use of military force , especially in Syria , first the Americans are tired and fed up because of the intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, even Republicans say that should reduce military spending and then secondly everyone feel depressed and do not want the Department of Defense any new commitments , Third, the nature of the conflict in Syria makes Obama and those around him say it may be a quagmire last soak in it , as happened in Libya , Iraq and Afghanistan if gathered together in this case , even if entered intervened in good intentions but people would shoot at the Americans and thus there is nothing we felt that there was opposition to Syria and clear , and if they entered the arms to Syria, the fall in the wrong hands , which puts pressure on the U.S. administration currently .
Abdul Rahim poorest : Charles this logic , who spoke by you now what is the maximum effect that can have , Susan Rice, and Samantha Fox on the political Obama?
Charles Kabchn : I think that probably , that Obama is a person , a more head take things for himself in foreign policy at the time of Richard Nixon, there was not any head other is worthwhile daily affairs of foreign policy , but this is one of the reasons we find that the game changed chairs will not lead significant changes , it is true that Susan Rice is very close to him have I watched image after the announcement of the appointment are proceeding with a Ihtdhanhma , understanding friends and is therefore reliable and trusting them to a large extent , but I think that the capacity of these women tend to humanitarian intervention and their ability is limited, but the thing the only one that I can say is that I think it is very possible that the United States may increase its partnership and enter here in Syria, this is possible , but this is not the result of the influence of Rice growing but because it seems that the Assad regime is making progress and that rebels in the case of self-defense, and therefore if they fail meetings and Conference Geneva 2 Obama will be the time has come to doing another activity , and more .
Abdul Rahim poorest : Happy What do you think ?
Said Erekat : I think that the most important message in this appointment is that the President said that the foreign policy and security policy will be managed from the White House , in the past there was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and she was a strong personality and practically ran foreign policy and as an independent entity to some extent, The fact that the nature of the background of the conflict between Hillary Clinton and the President gave her plenty of field and plenty of movement to lead foreign policy , now is the next Susan Rice specifically and next to Samantha Power says that foreign policy will be managed from here from the White House , there are of course other messages under this tent policy intervention and everybody knows that Susan Rice, a proponent of intervention in addition to humanitarian support , advocates of intervention in addition to payment democratic freedoms , as well as also Samantha Power both advocates of intervention and those who put the policy of intervention in Libya , there may be little difference between Susan Rice and Samantha Power on the situation Palestinian , Susan Rice, is always to some extent has always been the face of the efforts of the Palestinian , Samantha Power may be more willing to accept a Palestinian efforts .
Abdul Rahim poorest : You say now that in the appointment of two women to remind that the foreign and security policy of the United States made ​​in the White House and not elsewhere , Africa , for example, where many of the crises in Sudan, Western Sahara problem Does this mean that these parties must now go when heading to Washington should go directly to the White House without passing through the foreign or defense ?
Said Erekat : Certainly , I think that , especially to Susan Rice, the experience in the past, which is when I worked in the administration of President Clinton, the former worked in this context, and in this regard as well as orientation to the east, to go to China , go to Thailand to much of the eastern regions in the sense that we move away a little from the Middle East and other regions are heading towards that may be neglected in the previous era .
Abdul Rahim poorest : We will return to this theme in the second part of the program, Shibley Telhami in Doha, I want to accept it with you and your viewers some of what was said by David Ignatius in the Washington Post a few days ago says that the upgrade Susan Rice to the post of national security adviser, would be useful for the Obama administration, which facing difficulties in drawing up policies and clear-cut in his second term , will be given to Susan Rice, the White House a new ability to focus more on foreign policy , and may not agree with the others always but they know what you think about it , has put thoughts of Obama's political in a more accurate , especially on Syria , what is the accuracy needed by Obama in the Syrian file even heard of Rice did not hear Donilon , Tom Donilon Ptsourk ?
Shibley Telhami : Let me start first for what you're talking about with respect to any of the message behind these appointments, I do not think there is any message ..
Abdul Rahim poorest : Briefly if allowed Shibley ..
Shibley Telhami : The issue here is that the President respects these two ..
Abdul Rahim poorest : Sorry Sorry I am compelled to interrupt Shibley sound so bad because now we will try to fix it , Charles, what are the precision needed by Obama in this section in the Syrian file from Susan Rice, nor provided by Tom Donilon ?
Charles Kabchn : I think as Mr. when put up an important point by saying that Susan Rice, perhaps when he said that as more personal stronger than its predecessor Donilon this director expert has spent all his career in Washington, he moved from place to place to make sure that the various parties in the foreign policy, defense and state and external , and I think that Susan Rice will be submitted to the job site or a stronger stance on key issues such as Syria, but it ends at Obama because Obama is a strong man he shares a day in the administration 's foreign policy and that Obama already faces domestic pressure I think it's as strong as any , are exposed any U.S. president since World War II and not the issue of the image in the Middle East that wants to be spared , and Obama should Arkzh on issues such as the emergence of China , India, Brazil and issue the U.S. has become in an awkward position and I think and therefore very hesitant to engage in risky to pay the United States into another war does not the end of it in the Middle East , and thus ultimately I do not see I do not think that these appointments to Bauer and Rice is could be the beginning of a significant change in U.S. foreign policy .
Abdul Rahim poorest : If things of this logic, if the logic of this designation is to be given this position , Susan Rice, without affecting Susan Rice on Obama's position specifically on the issue of U.S. military interventions for humanitarian purposes means you useful in this speech is that proximity to it Kmkavotha friend thus the image like a picture of a third world country and it is not a democratic country like the United States means a reward friends ?
Said Erekat : I think that there is something certainly we have to remember that Susan Rice, who was in favor of Clinton jumped to the support of Barack Obama , which left bitterness in the mouth of Hillary Clinton at that stage , there is kind of a bonus, but I'm telling you what he said me, a close associate of Susan Rice, they want to face with the presence of the world Donilon was working behind the scenes and dimly not see one , they want a face- facing can appear on the programs also appeared on the program and talk about foreign policy and defend it and speak it strong so that the policy of President given to the American people almost every week and every day and strongly , and they believe that Susan Rice can do it , its impact on foreign policy, especially regarding intervention in Syria, in particular I think that the position of Susan Rice, known to intervene , but data are quite different I think ..
Abdul Rahim poorest : Currently ?
Said Erekat : offline .
Abdul Rahim poorest : After her appointment ?
Said Erekat : even after the set , I think that the situation in Syria is complicated large as stated Charles few minutes ago , the American people tired of war, tired of collusion and tired of getting caught in the mud wars infinite They see Syria as a state is more complicated than Iraq and more confrontation between the forces of different both at the level of sectarian or political level and with the implications of a very large region of Israel on Lebanon and thus intervention reality for Syria is something that needs a lot of precision and a lot of study before taking the first step , so even see that the promises made in the past to provide trucks and provide a means of contact until this moment did not provide .
Abdul Rahim poorest : I think that the connection has been repaired with Shibley in Doha , Shibley if you hear me in the limits of what can be provided by Susan Rice, the Obama administration , especially in a complex Kalmlv Syrian means without expect that Obama will change his position on the basis of what Charles and happy , what is the maximum that can affect it , Susan Rice, and Samantha Power on Obama's position on the Syrian file ?
Shibley Telhami : let's focus on Susan Rice because Samantha Power , of course in the executive office and not in the position of decision-making , there was Susan Rice did not significantly affect the decision-making let's focus on Rice in particular , without a doubt , even if there was no message behind this post I do not think that there is a clear message for policy change there dimensions , have different views of each person affects the decision-making and without a doubt is the focus on human rights issues more than Tom Donilon this is clear , but if we look at the position , which analyzed many for Rwanda in particular the circumstances are quite different , I do not say differ only for Rwanda and Syria , but the problem for the United States in that period, it was the United States can get international support if they were willing to pay for the intervention , but this situation has changed completely for the equation of international and rejection Russian and rejection Chinese do not think that Rice or even Samantha Power at the site may agree to face Russia or face or military intervention significantly without international support to look into it, but at the same time, there are many possibilities for taking different positions for intervention and I know that even means , regardless of my knowledge , Susan Rice, fellow at the Brookings and worked with them also in the Kerry campaign election for the presidency in 2004 , but through you are a member of the board of directors of human Rights Watch, and through this lens was clear that the international organizations in the human rights consider to Samantha Power and Susan Rice as friends of human rights issues , therefore I think that ..
Abdul Rahim poorest : Ok Shibley Sorry got the message Shibley Ost I want to hear and listen to the audience what was said by Charles Krauthammer in the Washington Post a few days before commenting on Kerry specifically says : The response of Obama and send his foreign minister to Moscow toady , has returned John Kerry , believing that