The President's Social Security Number
One
of the favorite Birther claims is that President Obama is using a
Social Security number that was somehow fraudulently stolen from a man
who was born in Connecticut in 1890. Like all birther lies, this one is
refuted by the evidence.
1. Was Obama's Social Security Number issued in Connecticut?
2. Was Obama's Social Security Number issued to a man born in 1890?
2a. The Susan Daniels Affidavit - The Basis for this Birther Lie
2b. Jean Paul Ludwig, born in 1890 (Added 3/23/2012)
3. Does E-Verify say Obama's SSN is fraudulent? The Hollister Incidents
1. Was Obama's Social Security Number issued in Connecticut?
CLAIM: Obama's Social Security Number was issued for a state he never lived in. TRUTH: President Obama's Social Security number (if he hasn't been issued a new one since his original one was spread all over the Internet) begins with the digits 042. While this is ordinarily an indication that the number was issued to someone living in Connecticut, the Social Security Administration says:
One
should not make too much of the "geographical code." It is not meant to
be any kind of useable geographical information. The numbering scheme
was designed in 1936 (before computers) to make it easier for SSA to
store the applications in our files in Baltimore since the files were
organized by regions as well as alphabetically. It was really just a
bookkeeping device for our own internal use and was never intended to be
anything more than that.
Orly Taitz recently received, in response to an FOIA request, the SS-5 (Application for Social Security Card) of a man who
appears in the Social Security death index with a number just one digit
lower than President Obama's. This man, Thomas Wood, was born in 1962
and died in 1981. The SS-5 showed he had requested his Social Security
number on March 21, 1977. President Obama's number was probably issued
the same day. It is perfectly reasonable that a high school sophomore
would be requesting a Social Security number in the spring, while
getting ready to start a summer job at Baskin Robbins.The first three digits of a Social Security number at that time were called the "Area Number". And it's true that the Area Number 042 is normally issued for people who live in Connecticut (or apply for the Social Security card with a mailing address in Connecticut). President Obama lived in Hawaii in 1977, while attending Punahou School. He attended Punahoufrom the fifth grade until graduating in 1979, and his first job was at the Baskin Robbins at the corner of King and Punahou Streets in Honolulu.
So how did President Obama get a Social Security number with an Area Number reflecting residence (or mailing address) in Connecticut?
Most likely, this was due to a clerical error. At the time, President Obama was only 15 years old, and lived with his grandparents in an address on Beretania Street. The President’s house in Hawaii was in zip code 96814 and the zip code for Danbury, CT. is 06814. Since the '0' and '9' on a typical typewriter are immediately adjacent (remember, the president's Social Security number was issued in 1977, when data entry was via keypunch and data cards), it would have been a common error to accidently type a '0' when the ZIP code really began with a '9'. Another possibility is that President Obama, a left-handed 15 year old boy at the time, may have written his own ZIP code in a less-than-fully-legible manner, making the '9' look somewhat like a '0'.
In a letter to Investigator Susan Daniels, the Social Security Adminiatration said (ADDED 6/6/2012):
Dear Ms. Daniels:In any event, there is no evidence whatever that President Obama's Social Securiy number was obtained by fraud.
This letter is in response to your letter to Commissioner Astrue concerning President Obama's Social Security Records.
After reviewing the information you provided, we disagree with your conclusion that a person's Social Security number depends upon the address of residence. Furthermore, we do not have information related to your question regarding the numbering of Selective Service forms. Please direct questions regarding a Selective Service form (SSS form 3B) to the Selective Service System.
Sincerely,
/s/
Frank Biro
Acting Associate Commissioner
Office of Public Inquiries
For a far more detailed discussion of this issue, please read this topic in our forum.
2a. The Susan Daniels Affidavit - The Basis for the Birther Lie
CLAIM:
The number issued to Barack Obama was issued to a man born in 1890. His
grandmother worked in the Hawaii Probate Court and had access to Social
Security Numbers of dead people, so she stole one for Barry.
TRUTH: The complete affidavit signed by Susan Daniels in the Barnett v. Obama
case is at the bottom of this page. As you can see on p. 5 of the
affidavit, the number "1890" appears without explanation, just above two
dates. It does not say the Social Security number of President Obama
was issued to a man born in 1890. It does not say anything about a man
born in the year 1890. It's not even clearly intended to be a date, as
the two numbers below it are. It is just a number on the page.
Nevertheless,
the birthers, led by deranged lunatic Orly Taitz and based upon this
record, decided to fabricate the lie that President Obama's birth
certificate was issued to a male (why not a female?) who was born in
1890.
In
the detailed report on pages 6-13, we can see where the 1890 date comes
from. From 1988 to 1991, Barack Obama attended Harvard Law School and
lived in a basement apartment at 365 Broadway in Somerville, MA. There
are NINE entries for this Somerville address. All are the SSN number
ending in 4425. DOB: 4 are 8/4/1961, 1 for 4/8/1961, 2 have no DOB, 1
has 1990, 1 has 1890. [note -- pre-Y2K most dates in the US were written
as MM/DD/YY. The Y2K conversion forced older data to conform to
MM/DD/YYYY. It's easy to see how 1890 and 1990 could be the same number
This
is a prime example of why these databases are merely the starting point
for an investigation. A rational person might look at those entries and
conclude that 4/8/1961 is an entry error and the two incomplete entries
are bad data given the strong correlation between the 8/4/1961 and the
SSN in other entries. They would move on to the next set of
addresses. Birthers, however, see the same data and conclude the number
was stolen from a guy born in 1890.
Added 7/5/2012: (Thanks to OhForGoodnessSakes.com for this item.)
In an article on a web site for intelligence professionals, dated July 8, 2008, called “Subjects with Multiple SSN’s,” Daniels was much more honest in her evaluation of the accuracy of results in the kind of search she later did in her Birther capacity:In Canada, it is rare to find somebody with two Social Insurance Numbers (SIN). Where this happens it may be a case of clerical error or a reference to a former SIN appropriated by an identity thief. The former reason is extremely rare. In thirty years I have only encountered this once. The Canadian SIN is used as an identifier less than the SSN is in the USA.However, in the USA the case is somewhat different. According to Susan Daniels, of Daniels and Associates Investigations, Inc. in Chardon Ohio, when searching through database aggregators such as IRB, it is common to find a subject referenced with two or three Social Security Numbers (SSN). Here are some of the reasons a person may show-up with multiple SSN’s:* a wife’s or child’s SSN could end up with father’s name
* a parent’s SSN could show up with a child
* the subject bought something with someone else and the SSNs could end up with each other’s name
* the database producer is relating several SSN’s to one address
* an error by whoever entered the dataSusan Daniels of Daniels and Associates Investigations, Inc. (9754 Thwing Road Chardon, OH 44024, Tel.:440.286.4072) has been a Private Investigator for 15 years.Susan Daniels should be ashamed and embarrassed, really she should.
2b. A Man born in 19890: Jean Paul Ludwig Added 3/23/2012
CLAIM: An
intensive investigation has revealed the identity of the man whose
Social Security Number (SSN) is being used by President Obama was Jean
Paul Ludwig who was born in France in 1890, immigrated to the United
States in 1924, and was assigned SSN 042-xx-xxxx ( Obama's current SSN )
rec'd on or about March 1977. Ludwig spent the final months of his life
in Hawaii, where he died.
Conveniently, Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, worked part-time in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse, and therefore had access to the SSNs of deceased individuals.
The Social Security Administration was never informed of Ludwig's death, and because he never received Social Security benefits there were no benefits to
stop and therefore, no questions were ever raised.
Conveniently, Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, worked part-time in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse, and therefore had access to the SSNs of deceased individuals.
The Social Security Administration was never informed of Ludwig's death, and because he never received Social Security benefits there were no benefits to
stop and therefore, no questions were ever raised.
TRUTH:
Jean Paul Ludwig is in the Social Security Death Index. You can check
it yourself at http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3693
Ludwig's SSN is 045-26-8722, not the same as President Obama's, which is SSN 042-xx-xxxx. Image and more at ObamaConspiracy.org.
Ludwig died in 1981 and his SSN was issued in 1951. Obama's number shows it was issued in 1977.
Madelyn
Dunham volunteered in the Probate Court starting in 1986, after she
retired. She also didn't work with wills and dead people. She worked
Oahu Circuit Court, where she served as a court observer, probate aide
and arbitrator for the Juvenile Monetary Restitution Program. Story here.
3. Does E-Verify say Obama's SSN is Fraudulent?
The Hollister Incidents
Col. Greg
Hollister, USAF (Ret.), is a birther with a colorful history of
questioning the constitutional legitimacy of presidents. He once accused President Clinton
of having "gone to Eastern Europe and participated in communist
demonstrations against the Vietnam War while we were at war with
communism there." He was the plaintiff in one of Phil Berg's lawsuits,
known as Hollister v. Soetoro,
filed on Dec. 31, 2008. That case was dismissed by the U.S. District
Court in Washington, D.C. (and Hollister's other attorney in the case,
John D. Hemenway, was sanctioned with an official reprimand for bringing
a frivolous claim before the court). The case was appealed and denied
all the way to the Supreme Court, which also denied a Petition for
Rehearing. For full information about all the birther lawsuits including
this one, see the Birther Case Scorecard (PDF).
Social Security Number Verification System - Falsely Pretending to Be President Obama's Employer
Sometime in late 2010, Col. Hollister apparently pretended to be an employer of President Obama, in order to obtain his Social Security records. He claims he sent a Form 1099 to the president, and then used the Social Security Number Verification System (SSNVS) to obtain a record of the number that President Obama was known to have had since he was 15 years old (and which has been published all over the Internet, particularly by deranged lunatic Orly Taitz).
Hollister did manage to obtain a record from the SSNVS, shown below. It said that President Obama's original Social Security number was "never issued". However, what Col. Hollister did in obtaining that record -- falsely claiming that he was an employer and that President Obama was his employee -- is a crime. For a description of why this is a crime and a good explanation as to why President Obama's original Social Security number has probably been withdrawn and is now officially recorded as "never issued," read this blog entry at Obama Conspiracy Theories.
After viewing the SSNVS record below, continue reading about Col. Hollister impersonating President Obama in order to obtain a copy of his draft (Selective Service) card.
Note that Col. Hollister redacted the phony "Employer's EIN" and the address information showing that the record was mailed to him in Colorado Springs.
Selective Service Registration Card - Falsely Impersonating the President
Next, Col. Hollister contacted the Selective Service, falsely impersonated President Obama, improperly registered his own address as President Obama's address, and by this false impersonation and identity theft he managed to obtain a duplicate registration acknowledgement card with President Obama's Selective Service information on it.
This may violate several federal criminal statutes, and apparently caused the federal record of President Obama's address with the Selective Service to be altered to show that he lives in Colorado Springs, CO.
Hollister then sent the stolen draft card to Orly Taitz, who filed it in federal court. The full duplicate registration acknowledgment is seen below. Col. Hollister redacted the mailing address in an attempt to conceal his involvement in the identity theft. However, unbeknownst to Col. Hollister, there was a POSTNET bar code showing the address to which the card was sent. A selected crop of the duplicate registration acknowledgment shows this:
Social Security Number Verification System - Falsely Pretending to Be President Obama's Employer
Sometime in late 2010, Col. Hollister apparently pretended to be an employer of President Obama, in order to obtain his Social Security records. He claims he sent a Form 1099 to the president, and then used the Social Security Number Verification System (SSNVS) to obtain a record of the number that President Obama was known to have had since he was 15 years old (and which has been published all over the Internet, particularly by deranged lunatic Orly Taitz).
Hollister did manage to obtain a record from the SSNVS, shown below. It said that President Obama's original Social Security number was "never issued". However, what Col. Hollister did in obtaining that record -- falsely claiming that he was an employer and that President Obama was his employee -- is a crime. For a description of why this is a crime and a good explanation as to why President Obama's original Social Security number has probably been withdrawn and is now officially recorded as "never issued," read this blog entry at Obama Conspiracy Theories.
After viewing the SSNVS record below, continue reading about Col. Hollister impersonating President Obama in order to obtain a copy of his draft (Selective Service) card.
Note that Col. Hollister redacted the phony "Employer's EIN" and the address information showing that the record was mailed to him in Colorado Springs.
Selective Service Registration Card - Falsely Impersonating the President
Next, Col. Hollister contacted the Selective Service, falsely impersonated President Obama, improperly registered his own address as President Obama's address, and by this false impersonation and identity theft he managed to obtain a duplicate registration acknowledgement card with President Obama's Selective Service information on it.
This may violate several federal criminal statutes, and apparently caused the federal record of President Obama's address with the Selective Service to be altered to show that he lives in Colorado Springs, CO.
Hollister then sent the stolen draft card to Orly Taitz, who filed it in federal court. The full duplicate registration acknowledgment is seen below. Col. Hollister redacted the mailing address in an attempt to conceal his involvement in the identity theft. However, unbeknownst to Col. Hollister, there was a POSTNET bar code showing the address to which the card was sent. A selected crop of the duplicate registration acknowledgment shows this:
The bar code is a POSTNET code, and you can see how to read the POSTNET code here.
Fogbow member Raicha explains:- Five digit zip: 80908 - this is in Colorado Springs, according to the United States Postal Service
- +Plus 4, identifies the neighborhood: 3034.
- Googling that neighborhood: 80908-3034, gives you several addresses in the 6700 block of Connaught Drive in Colorado Springs
- The last three digits of the POSTNET code are 302, which are a delivery point (30) and a check digit. Typically, the identifier, in this case 30, identifies the specific street number in the neighborhood.
- This then identifies the house number: 6730
Google 6730 Connaught Drive, and a public property record pops up for Gregory Hollister.
Hollister was a plaintiff in a birther case (Hollister v. Soetoro)
that was dismissed in federal court, unsuccessfully appealed, and
denied without comment by the Supreme Court (twice). He is a long-time
birther. After he obtained the illicit draft card, he sent it to Orly
Taitz. Orly promptly filed the stolen draft card in federal court, and posted about it here. The Selective Service record Col. Hollister obtained by falsely impersonating the President.
Note the language on the card expressly stating that the card was intended ONLY for the "registrant": President Obama.
The Susan Daniels Affidavit in Barnett v. Obama
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